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Sandy Smith's avatar

So much to consider here. And it’s heartbreaking to understand she did not know her worth.

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Liz Charlotte Grant's avatar

Just heartbreaking.

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Sandy's avatar

Alisa Childers did the audio version of Through Gates of Splendour and espoused the kind of self sacrifice that Jim Elliot displays. I find it so frustrating to listen to these podcaster/speakers who uphold patriarchy by guilting Christians. It reminds me of the no-win situation of a Catholic upbringing and can be a source of misery for youth grappling to please God and be human at the same time. I have wondered how Jim Elliot’s faith would have evolved if he’d lived another 60 years. So much harm done in God’s name. Also, fun fact, the writer Patricia Cornwell was part of Elisabeth’s life. I’d love to know what happened between them.

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Liz Charlotte Grant's avatar

I also wish that Jim could've continued on with his wife! What a different story this would be.

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Mari Ferguson Cheney's avatar

I’m really interested in reading No Graven Image. As an MK, any account that brings into doubt what we were doing to people by forcing our religion on them is highly fascinating.

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Liz Charlotte Grant's avatar

Agreed! I think it’ll be a fascinating read.

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Michele Morin's avatar

I read and then re-read Austen’s bio, and having also read both volumes of the other bio, I still feel sad about the trajectory of EE’s life and relationships. This article was a helpful shared lament.

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Liz Charlotte Grant's avatar

I’m glad to hear that, Michele. ❤️

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Cait Kady's avatar

Thank you for sharing your friend's post as well, that is helpful context too although I have not read the biographies yet. I appreciated your review and this post. Elisabeth Elliot was not my primary voice on purity culture (and I was born in 1991 so some of that is age), but I read her books and definitely had a lot of admiration for her. Her Let Me Be a Woman book was probably the biggest influence, but not as much as Vision Forum for me, so in that way I can't blame her for anything. Passion and Purity, when I finally read in my late teens, I found unsettling even then. It makes so much sense now that I have read more about their relationship. It breaks my heart that that pattern continued.

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Rebecca Au-Mullaney's avatar

Thank you so much for writing that Revealer article! I really appreciated your perspective. Passion and Purity had an outsized influence on the ideals I held for my own life and I appreciated learning from you about the rest of Elliot’s story. Now I need to go read both biographies for myself. :-)

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Liz Charlotte Grant's avatar

You’re so welcome! I recommend you start with Lucy Austen’s bio. 😘

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Lucy S. R. Austen's avatar

Good points again, and thanks again for getting the conversation started. And touché on the meek inheriting the earth!! I was thinking about it specifically in terms of "easily imposed on" fr the dictionary definition, but you're absolutely right that she was aspiring to Sermon on the Mt. meekness.

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Liz Charlotte Grant's avatar

Haha—I’m ok with the disagreement personally. I just see the general trend of her life as a shrinking. 😣 Sigh. So, I suppose that’s where that meek word was coming from for me. 🤗

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Lucy S. R. Austen's avatar

Yes, making herself smaller and smaller 💔

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